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Dear Welder Series… sway bar question

Dear Welder Series…
I am interested in your anti roll/sway bar kit you have, I am wondering if it is good for the street or only for racing. I have seen other companies say for racing only, so I am just curious.

Bill

Dear Bill…
Bill, our sway bar, and all Welder Series parts, are designed for street rod/hot rod applications. We have this bar on our ’32 Ford coupe. The sway bar is probably lighter than most racers would want.

Thanks for asking.

Dear Welder Series… What diameter are your sway bars?

Dear Welder Series…
Do you make your universal sway bar in 0.500 inch diameter. The 48 Plymouth Conv I’m working on never had a rear sway bar and I may not be able to use anything greater than 0.750 on the front.

Bob

Dear Bob…
Bob, all of our sway bars are .75″ diameter.  The outer tube, which serves as a bearing (urethane bushing) holder and a place for the mounting tabs, is 1-3/8″ O.D.

Thanks for looking at our parts.

Paul Horton.

June Photo Sharing Winner: better late than tomorrow.

Don has been sending progress pictures of his Healey build for a while now… I hope he still has $50 of Welder Series parts to buy, because he’s the winner of this months photo sharing draw!

Don used a sway bar on the front and rear, frame curves, and various bits and pieces on this home built chassis. Check out the customized sway bar arms!

April Photo Sharing Winner!

Congrats, Lou! Thanks for sending the pictures of your sway bar install. There is $50 on your account at Welder Series.

Remember, the contest is completely random- I enter the number of applicants at www.random.org and hit “generate”. The entrants who didn’t win this month are automatically entered in the draw next month too!

http://www.welderseries.com/blog/photo-sharing/

If you have Welder Series parts on your project, all it takes is a quick picture and you’ll have the chance to win a $50 credit on your account here, just like Lou.

Sway Bar Install on NSRA ’33 Giveaway

While I was at Tucci Hot Rods last week, I installed a Welder Series universal sway bar on the giveaway car they’re building for the NSRA this year. It was a good exercise- installing something you sell ;)

Dave wanted the sway bar arms mounted facing forward, between the coilovers. Instead of using two #227005 mounts, we used six #70004 tabs on two different centerlines to mount the outer tube. Here are some install pictures…

Thanks for letting me borrow your camera, Dave!

Dear Welder Series… sway bar/ ladder bars?

Dear Welder Series…
I am building a 41 Willys gasser street rod. I am going to use ladder bar rear suspension with coil overs. Would the addition of your rear anti roll bar assembly help me and work out good with the ladder bars? Any further info you can give me on this will be greatly appeciated/
Thanks, Mike

Dear Mike…
Mike, if the front end of the ladder bars are mounted close together, the sway bar will help.  If the ladder bars are mounted under the main frame rails, there will only be a small amount of up or down movement of one end of the housing before the same side of the frame starts to move, too.  This is because the frame end of each ladder bar is the center of an arc and the rear axle housing is the radius of that arc.  If both tires go up or down the same amount, at the same time, both of these arcs are the same and there isn’t any extra stress put to the frame.  If one side of the housing moves up or down and the other side doesn’t, the two arcs are different.  Since the axle can’t (we hope) twist to accommodate the difference, the frame moves up or down.  In this case there would be only a slight improvement with an anti-roll bar.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.

Paul Horton

February Photo Draw Winner: Time Bomb Customs

John St Germain sent some pictures of his Welder Series universal sway bar install accompanied by this note:

Just a short note to say how happy I am with the rear sway bar kit I ordered from you the other day. I got it the next day and we installed today with pictures of the install. It is a simple easy to install system and we had no problems installing it with a little nip and welded it all up. It couldn’t get any simpler. What I thought was going to be a nightmare turned out to be a dream. We did it all in an afternoon. I will be ordering one for my roadster next. Thanks again for the quality we seldom see with other manufacturers.

John St Germain
1935 Ford 3- window coupe Kustom

http://www.timebombs.ca/timebombs/index.html

We ended up using the air bag bracket for the lower heim connection and it looks like it will be perfect.

Dear Welder Series… rear sway bar fitment question

Dear Welder Series…
I have a question regarding installation of a rear sway bar kit.
Also need to install an upper shock mounting system; believe that WS154460 will work just fine for this; frame inside is about 29″ wide.
Lower shock mounts have the 5/8″ dia. bolt through Pete & Jakes bracket, not yet installed.
Issue with the rear sway bar installation is:  I have a fuel cell right behind the rear axle, so I am rather tight on available space; pictures attached.

Believe that the simplest solution would be to install rear sway bar system in front of the rear axle, through the frame.
Frame outside to outside is 34″, boxed on the inside, rear end is a Ford 9″.
Would the 36″ kit fit (WS22700)? or do I need the 46″ kit (WS22740)?
If you have any suggestions as to better install these systems (upper shock & sway bar) I am all ears.

With a sincere thanks,
Lou

Dear Lou…
Lou, the WS154460 crossmember will be good if the upper shock eye is for a 5/8″ diameter bolt.  If the upper eye hole is 7/16″ diameter, we have WS154467.

The 36″ sway bar will be too short to be mounted through the 34″ wide frame.  The sway bar housing tube is 33-13/16″ long.  The WS22740 will work.  Will the bar interfere with rear axle suspension links?

You might be able to mount the sway bar from the lower coil-over bolts.  Spacers behind the coil-over would be necessary to move the sway bar housing tube back and clear of the coil-over body.  The sway bar brackets would be mounted so the tube is higher than the lower coil-over bolts.  If the brackets hang down, the tube gets too low and probably would be lower than scrub line.  Links would attach the arms to the frame rails.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.

Paul Horton

Dear Welder Series…
Thanks for the quick response Paul, very much appreciated.

Rear axle housing is hung by leaf springs, so I am rather confused by your suggestion below to attach to coil-over bolts.

Could you clarify if you mean shock bolts?

With a sincere thanks,
Lou.

Dear Welder Series…
Paul, another follow up regarding the ’51 rear sway bar question responded to earlier this afternoon.

Believe that the sketch, in a simplified form, is what you are suggesting.

Please verify, and if you know of a bracket that would attach to the 5/8 shock bolt, could you please let me know?

With a sincere thanks,
Lou.

Dear Lou…
Sorry that my confusion was contagious, Lou.  The pictures in the first email escaped notice.  I like your idea of mounting the bar ahead of the axle and through the frame rails.  The arms will be about 1-1/2″ outside the frame rail plus however much you need to weld the tube and the frame.

If you want to mount the bar between the rails, you could add a piece of square tube and hang the sway bar and the exhaust from it.

Your sketch is how I saw it, except that I imagined coil-overs instead of standard shocks.  The shock mount studs or the (10 ga?) brackets (at the hole where the studs go through) might not be strong enough.  I still like mounting the bar ahead of the axle.

Paul

Dear Welder Series…
Thanks Paul, your advice is greatly appreciated.

Will go with the ahead of the axle mounting.

Sincerely,
Lou

JH Restorations: Sway Bar Install

I received these pictures from JH Restorations as submissions to our monthly photo draw, and as I looked at the rest of the pictures in his Facebook album, I thought they would be good to use on our site too.  The captions are taken right from their Facebook album.

Parts:
WS22700 Universal Sway Bar

Check out the complete build of this 1955 Ford Custom Line.

Dear Welder Series… sway bar mounting question

Dear Welder Series…
I’ve been looking at your sway bar kits for a rear application. Is there any provision for mounting through the frame rails but having the arms and links on the inside of the frame rails?
Norman

Dear Norman…
This could be done by drilling a 3/4″ diameter (actually 13/16″ would be better for clearance) hole in the arms for the bar to pass through. Use smooth couplers both ends (instead of one end splined) and pin the arms to the bar. The frame rails should be boxed if they are not already. A short length of the 1-3/8″ OD tubing would be welded into each frame rail and the urethane bushings would be inserted from the driveshaft side of the frame rails.

It might be more convenient (for installation and removal) to put a crossmember in the frame and mount the sway bar off of this tube. The sway bar could be mounted behind the crossmember at the same height.

Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts. We like to hear about imaginative ways of accomplishing things.

Paul Horton