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Dear Welder Series…
I have a 1974 triumph spitfire with a sbc, it has a frame width of 19″ and a track width of 59.5″, i would like to install your mustang 2 crossmember do you see any reason why your 56″ would not work if I narrow it? Thanks for your help, also could you send me your catalog.
Dear Randy…
Randy, I’d like to check a couple of things…
We measure track with as the distance from one wheel mounting face to the other side wheel mounting face. 59-1/2″ sounds like too much for a Spitfire. Please check this.
The frame width, outside to outside, must be at least 26″ to mount the upper towers.
I’m confident that you will be able to put our crossmember in your frame, but it will require some frame mods to do it.
Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.
Dear Welder Series…
Paul I rechecked the track it’s 49.5 in what kind of frame mods would have to be done?
Dear Randy…
Sounds like the frame width is going to be ok, Randy. Minimum width for a 56″ kit (actually 56-1/2″) is 26″. You want 7″ less (49-1/2), so the minimum frame width would be 19″. There will be other “ambushes” along the way, but see how Grant Schwartz did the Volvo at http://www.schwartzwelding.com/gallery/cars/20.html for some ideas.
We will get a catalog in the mail.
Thanks for looking at our parts.
Paul Horton
Dear Welder Series…
Good morning,
I am restoring a 1948 Chevy pickup. I was inspired by the guys in Trucks. I want to upgrade the suspension but I am not sure what kit I need to order. Can you help me? I would like to get a complete front suspension kit.
Thank you,
Jesse
Dear Jesse…
Our 56″ kits are the right width for this truck, Jesse. We sell only the crossmember. To get a hub-to-hub kit, check with our dealers at http://www.welderseries.com/blog/dealers-builders/ .
Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.
Dear Welder Series…
I’ve got a customer that needs a Mustang II setup that is narrower than 56″. He has channeled his front sheetmetal to the point that the tires hit the fenders on turning. To correct this I have had him remove the entire front clip frame and now we are going to add a new subframe and front end suspension. I’m planning on going with a 2X3 frame rail with a mustang II front end. I can have the rack narrowed locally and would like to narrow the crossmember a like amount to get the track narrower. I’m planning on running the frame rails on the inside of the A-arm stands and think a rear rack might work better. I forgot he would like to go with a coil-over shock setup and with a rate that would support a big block Chevrolet iron motor.
What I need from you is a list of everything we need to make this up. Hub to hub including brakes. I can call you if that would be simpler.
Thanks Gary
Dear Gary…
Gary, I’d position the wheels and tires in the fenders and measure the distance from wheel mounting surface to surface. Then
mock up the whole front end from tire to tire on one of our 56″ coil-over kits. Measure from rotor wheel mounting surface to rotor wheel mounting surface. Subtract the measurement you want from the tire positioning dimension and shorten the 56″ crossmember that amount. This will put the tires exactly where you want them with the control arms and brakes that will be used. The crossmember can be reinforced with fishplates inside.
We can provide the crossmember kit (http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/mustang-ii-crossmember-for-coil-springs-copy/), brake kits (http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/mustang-ii-brake-kit-for-granada-rotors/ or http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/mustang-ii-brake-kit-for-camaro-rotors/), fishplates (http://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/reinforcing-plate-fishplate/) but not control arms or coil-overs.
Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts. We want to help with this project.
Paul Horton
Dear Welder Series…
I have a couple of questions about the Mustang 2 cross member kits which you sell. I am starting to work on a 35 dodge truck which was a 1-1/4 ton truck. The front frame from forward the axle back is flat. The fenders mount to the top of the frame rail. I am planning on fabricating a 2X4 steel tube frame which would be similar in dimensions to the stock frame. The fenders will mount to the top of the frame rail.
My first question is what is the min. and max width frame rail spacing the 58” track cross member will work with? My thought is to use the 58” track cross member which would give less fender interference along with a speedway motors A frame kit using the 5/8” narrower A frames. This would put my track width between 56 and 57 inches. My second question is do you think I will encounter any clearance problems with the spring mounts and narrower A frames?
Thanks for your time.
John
Dear John…
John, the 58″ kit (https://www.welderseries.com/blog/online-store/ws14540/) is easiest to put in frame rails that are from 28″ – 32″ outside. The rails have to be at least 28″ wide to weld the upper towers on and if they are wider than 32″, the spring might require frame clearance.
There shouldn’t be any clearance issues using the narrow control arms.
This should be an interesting project. Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.
Paul Horton
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Dear Welder Series…
I am interested in your weld-it series x-member, my question is can it be flipped around to create a rear steer x-member? Thank you very much Gerald
Dear Gerald…
Sorry, it’s not as easy as that. Mustang II spindles aren’t designed to
be rear-steered. Heidt’s, TCI, and Kugel all use a spindle that they
designed to be rear-steer. Usually, a Chrysler rack (Omni or K-car) is
used and these racks have different mounts from the MII.
Paul Horton
Dear Welder Series…
THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE . YOU SAVED ME A BIG HEADACHE . I’LL PROBABLY STICK WITH THE MII ,TO KEEP IT SIMPLE….CAN YOU TELL ME, IF I USE YOUR 58″ TRACK X-MEMBER, WHAT IS THE MEASUREMENT BETWEEN THE FRAME RAILS?
I’M USING A 354 HEMI IN MY PROJECT AND I COULD USE A COUPLE EXTRA INCHES IN THAT AREA. THANKS AGAIN YOU HAVE BEEN A GREAT HELP… JERRY
Dear Jerry…
For a 58″ crossmember, here are some frame width considerations:
The 58″ upper towers can’t be more than 28″ apart, so that would be the minimum frame width outside. 30″ would be better, as it will let the tower weld to the top and outside of the frame.
The 58″ crossmember is 32″ wide, so that would be the max frame width inside. 30″ would be better, as it would let the crossmember weld to the inside and bottom of the frame.
There are “work-arounds” to accommodate frame dimensions narrower or wider than those above. Even with the dimensions given the frame to ground dimension and spindle height will have an effect on the min and max frame width.
I hope this helps. Please write again if you need more information.
Paul
Dear Welder Series…
Hi, I’m looking at your mustang II crossmember kit, and I’m wondering if it would be appropriate for a 54 Chevy that I want to bag and have lay on the ground. Can I get it low
enough with your cross member, or would I need to look at Z-ing the frame?
I’ve got a donor Mustang II that I’ll be getting the arms and whatnot off of to use for this project.
Also, how is shipping to the states? Is it reasonable, or prohibitively expensive?
Thanks,
Jake
Dear Jake…
Jake, our kit is great for a project like yours because you notch the crossmember and towers to get the ride height you want. The step-by-step instructions will guide you through the whole installation.
Your donor parts (1974-78 Mustang II) will work fine. Order the strut rod bracket kit #108140 if you plan to use the stock strut rods. You will also need 2 of the #12202 c-notches to clear the rack bellows.
Thanks for looking at Welder Series parts.
Paul Horton
Dear Welder Series…
How about shipping to the states, is that reasonable?
Thanks,
Jake
Dear Jake…
Sorry I missed that, Jake, ’cause it easy to calculate and, we hope you agree, is quite reasonable. Freight from our door to your door is 10% of the order, a minimum freight charge of $15 and a maximum charge of $60.00. The MII kit ships for less than $25.00 (10% of $223.70 = $22.37).
Paul
I just received an email from Grant Schwartz (say “shh-warts”) of Schwartz Welding with some pictures of a Welder Series universal sway bar being used in a Mustang II application. I thought I’d pass on the pics to feed your imagination engines!
Parts used:
Universal sway bar kit (36″ trim-to-fit)
#70004 tab
Dear Welder Series…
Folks,
Love the welder series videos.
I will be installing my first Mustang 2 suspension in a 1954 Chevrolet 3/4 ton truck. I will be using one of your crossmember kits. My question is: How do I determine how high/low to mount the crossmember to get my desired ride height? I am concerned about welding everything in and being to low or high.
Neil!
Dear Welder Series…
Neil,
You mock up your frame at ride height and compare the frame height to the center of your tire & wheel. This will be 1/2 of the tire diameter less 1/2″ for tire flattening under load. This will also be spindle height. There is a small reference notch in our crossmember at spindle height. You relate the frame height to spindle height (which is also the crossmember reference notch) and that gives you the correct ride height.
The detailed instructions are online: click here.
Follow the worksheets and your truck will sit exactly as you want it.
Thanks for asking.
Paul Horton
Along with running the two parts of the show this weekend and last (installing our MII crossmember and rear four link kit), Powerblock TV has added an article with some more information on the actual assembly of the Welder Series Mustang II crossmember.
Check out these links:
Trucks!TV Mustang II install video (available for a limited time)
Powerblock Magazine Mustang II article
Dear Welder Series…
Hi! I have your 56″ crossmember kit. I am using pair of stock dimension tubular lowers which are made for air bags, not that that should make any difference, and stock uppers. I am installing to a frame which I will build to. In other words I have no forward frame to modify. I have attached a picture to help with my questions.
Thanks for your help – Great Product!!!
Craig
Dear Craig…
Thanks for the drawing, Craig. I would make the 2 x 4 frame rails 30″ o.d. and parallel. With stock spindles, I’d set the frame up with 12-1/4″ from the ground to the bottom of the rail. I’d have the rails level, front-to-back. This will give about 1/4″ clearance between the bottom of the rails and the rack bellows. The bottom of the crossmember will be 7-3/4″ from the ground.
The notches will fall into place by doing the worksheet instructions. Follow the steps one at a time. Read them carefully, because jumping ahead can get things out of whack. If the instruction cause problems, email the frame measurements to me and I’ll tell you where to make the notch cuts. I hope this helps, even tho’ I didn’t give you all the dimensions you asked for.
Paul
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